Registered Dietitian Nutritionists Dalina Soto and Melissa Landry interview Danny Shapiro, Physical Therapist to set the record straight on the relationship between weight, pain, and mobility. Many of our clients fear weight will hold them back from being fit and enjoying life. When they decide to stop focusing on weight loss for their mental and emotional health, they can feel worried: what will that mean for their physical health over the years? Are they doomed to a life of pain and immobility? Especially if they gain weight?If you have ever struggled with similar fears, but you still want to break the diet cycle – this episode is for you. Danny will show you how to approach your aches and pains without a side of diet culture – so you can feel confident in improving your body’s physical ability and feel your best at any size.Danny talks us through why – and how – he teaches physical self-care (instead of weight loss) to improve the physical wellbeing of his clients, and how you can do this too!
In today’s episode we discuss:
- what your doctor may have wrong in prescribing weight loss to treat pain
- common problem areas like knee and hip pain- are they related to weight gain? what can you do about it?
- what to do when pain or mobility issues trigger negative body image and harmful dieting behaviors
Episode Resources:
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- Connect with Melissa on Instagram: @no.more.guilt
- Connect with Dalina on Instagram: @your.latina.nutritionist
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Episode Transcript
Melissa Landry:
How do I work with pain if I’m not to be focusing on weight loss? Danny, so many people connect weight loss with pain treatment and we’re hoping you can help dispel the myths here. Before we jump in, I would love for you to introduce yourself. Tell us a little bit about you and your work before we jump in here today.
Danny Shapiro:
All right. So, yeah. I started out from the age of four and five years old as a ballroom dancer and ended up being a professional and I did it for about 16 years. Starting from the age of 10, traveling internationally representing the United States, was always really big into movement being a dancer. So-
Melissa Landry:
That’s important.
Danny Shapiro:
Yeah. I think so. So, that was what really made me fall in love with movement from a very early age and it transcended itself into what I’m doing now, which is physical therapy. The reason why I went into physical therapy is because in the dancing world and all around the outside of it, I saw people getting injured right and left and in the dancing world specifically, it’s you got pain? Okay. Pop a couple Advil’s, carry on, right? There’s no treatment. There’s no okay, take it easy, right?
Danny Shapiro:
Because competition season is all year round. You take a week off, take a month off, that means your competitors are getting ahead of you and I thought that was a little silly, to put it lightly, and I wanted to create a difference within the dancing community. Then once I entered the PTU realm and the PTU world through schooling and rotations, I was like, all right. Yeah. I can not just focus on dancers. There’s so many other people that need help and then there are so many people who are just recommended drugs and injections and surgeries that just make you worse or do nothing and I was like well, that has to change too.
Danny Shapiro:
So, that is what really motivated me to combine my passion for movement and dancing with natural healing, natural medicine, without the need for these surgeries, these injections and we’re going to dive into this in a moment of oh, you’re just even slightly overweight? Cool. Drop 20 pounds. In a week, you and I can talk. Which is ridiculous too.
Melissa Landry:
Yeah. [crosstalk 00:02:15].
Danny Shapiro:
You’re just supposed to be stuck in pain? Is that what’s supposed to… Is that the way life is? But in any case, this is what made me who I am today. Why believe movement is so important and why I advocated so heavily both through exercise stretches as well as dancing throughout my social media platform and as well as for anyone who comes in to see me.
Melissa Landry:
Yes. Your story is so incredible and what compelled me to really start digging into your work and your page was your advocacy and the way that you show up on your space to say, “You know what? I see you patient. I see you client. I see where you are now. Where do you want to go? Let’s figure out a plan to get there that isn’t setting you back mentally, emotionally.” That’s really what I think you bring to your work, Danny. So, thank you so much for what you’re doing. Dalina and I were so jazz and I asked our audience, me and Dalina coach our clients all the time on this because they say, “You know what? I want to give up dieting, but,” whole bunch of reasons, but one of them is my knee pain, my hip pain. What if when I get older, am I going to lose mobility?
Melissa Landry:
Am I going to be able to go hiking with my friends and have the freedom to live my life as someone who can be active? We coach our clients to think about that in a slightly different way, but a lot of times when they’re out in the community they hear the same messages, which is well, just pop pills and just lose weight and it’s really discouraging and so, I appreciate what you said there. Is it okay to run by some questions with you, what they’re asking to hear your take on? How do I look at this a little differently?
Danny Shapiro:
I’d be upset if you didn’t.
Melissa Landry:
All right and then if we have time, I really want to talk about dancing and get into that some more.
Danny Shapiro:
Sure, let’s do it.
Melissa Landry:
First, we’re going to talk about two of the biggest things we kept hearing when we asked our audience their question. One was about knee pain and one was about hip pain. So, I thought we’d break them into two parts. We’ll start with the knees. Basically the question is are knee pain and weight gain related? And whether or not that’s true, what can they do about it? I’m going to read you a few things that some people were asking. They said, “My knees hurt after gaining weight. I know weight loss is unreachable. So, what now?” Knees! It’s such a common thing to hear that weight loss will decrease the pressure on them. Another person, “Knee aches!” It’s really intense. I can feel it, you guys. They just ache even while I’m sleeping. This is new in this version of my body and another person said, “I have two bad knees and no ability to run. What other options do I have besides walking?” So, I’m sure these are things you’ve heard before.
Danny Shapiro:
Oh yeah. So, I guess just the first one first, does weight gain effect knee pain? I would say it affects knee pain in the same way that if you’re a competitive runner or a consistent runner affects knee pain, right? We all go through wear and tear, right? That’s just the nature of life, whether you’re a dancer or a runner or just a very long distance walker, with time comes wear and tear. That’s just a natural progression, right? Now, what will determine that wear and tear is if, for example, you’re a runner, but you don’t really do any exercises or stability work or stretching work to stabilize your knees, right? Or your hips, right? This applies to both areas, right? You will be more prone to getting aches and pains and injuries and so forth, right?
Danny Shapiro:
So, whether you’re dealing with weight gain or consistent sporting or anything that places more pressure or weight on the knees, it doesn’t necessarily mean that that’s it. You’re done for, right? If you’re someone who is worried about weight gain and their knee pain or hip pain, while it may be a factor, may be, that doesn’t mean you can’t do anything about it, right? Again, I’m comparing people who are worried about weight gain with athletes because the concept is the same, right? It’s wear and tear and how can we prevent that wear and tear from happening, right? So, the answer is the same for both groups of people, right? It’s stabilizing the joints, making sure that the joint is ready to accept the activity that you want to do, whether it’s walking, speed walking, whatever it is, be ready for it, right?
Danny Shapiro:
When I wake up in the morning, I had a really bad back injury, really bad, seven years ago. Terrible. Could barely walk, right? Now after that injury, I made sure that every single day I had a routine that I follow, right? To make sure that my whole body is good forever, right? Until I literally can’t move anymore. So, I recommend people having, whether you’re concerned about having or getting knee pain or if you have knee pain right now, do something about it and I don’t mean take drugs. I don’t mean go for injections and I don’t mean go to the doctor, sit there just for them to tell you, “Lose weight and then we’ll talk,” right? Start mobilizing, start stabilizing. If you’re having knee aches, go to your local PT or come to me and I’ll help you, right? [crosstalk 00:07:40] Right? Find the issue that’s causing the pain, not a factor of the pain, right? Find the issue. Once you find the issue, you can eradicate it.
Melissa Landry:
That’s so powerful. [crosstalk 00:07:51] I’m about to work my knees.
Dalina Soto:
For reals.
Danny Shapiro:
There you go.
Melissa Landry:
One thing you said really jumped out at me, which is that it’s the same situation as if a runner, which were to experience that pain too, we don’t blame the runner for their pain. We don’t say, “Oh gosh, you ran wrong. You ran wrong all those years and it’s your fault for your pain.” We say, “Okay, we got this injury. Let’s see what’s causing it. Let’s set you up with a plan to stabilize and work with the body your in for what you want to do in that body,” but so often in our culture with weight gain, we say, “Oh gosh, well, that was their fault. If they hadn’t eaten in such a way, if they hadn’t, ‘Let themselves go,'” and it’s the same exact situation, but our society puts blame on the weight gain. There’s no shame in your body changing and there’s no shame in having pain. The question is where do you want to go?
Danny Shapiro:
Exactly. There’s no point to wallow in what already happened or how you are now, right? You’re in the body that you’re in. Let’s move forward. Let’s make it better. Let’s make small adjustments to the lifestyle to make sure that these pains and aches don’t happen, right? Let’s work with what we got and make sure that we get the outcome that we want, which is for people who are worried about pain, being pain free. For people who don’t have pain yet, who want to avoid it, injury proof your body, right? Regardless of what size you’re at, what you look, it doesn’t matter, right? We need to secure ourselves no matter what.
Melissa Landry:
Yeah. I always think of Arnold Schwarzenegger or big bodybuilders and how no one’s like, “Oh, I don’t want to get too big as a bodybuilder because my joints.” Nobody says that when they’re about to endeavor. Yeah or The Rock. Nobody’s worried about his joints, but when you see someone who’s in a bigger body, who has… Dalina’s cracking up. Who has a shape or a form that’s not traditional or ideal, suddenly we’re placing blame on that person and it’s so hard for individuals to keep hearing that message. It makes it hard to actually get the help you deserve and that you can utilize to change your life.
Dalina Soto:
And I think it’s important to point out here that weight is weight. It doesn’t matter if it comes from muscle. It doesn’t matter if it comes from fat cells. Your body’s still going to carry the same weight and the point that Melissa made is so important. I don’t know how much The Rock weighs, but his neck and his shoulders, his body is like yes and I’m pretty sure his carrying around a lot of weight, right? And nobody’s worried about his joints and he’s running and nobody’s probably worrying about his injuries. I don’t know, Danny. I don’t know if you talk to celebrities and-
Danny Shapiro:
We speak from now and then. Whatever.
Dalina Soto:
I’m sure you do. I’m sure he’s one of your clients, but yeah.
Melissa Landry:
Let me tell you, that Baywatch movie was terrible, but he was able to run. He was running down that beach-
Dalina Soto:
He was able to move his joints perfectly fine carrying around all that weight. So, I love that you emphasized that because I was telling Melissa yesterday, I was like, “I need him to tell me why my knees are cracking every time I get out of bed.” I don’t move as much anymore. I’m not commuting and so, I know that I’m not walking as much as I used to. I know, I know that my body’s just used to more activity than I’m doing now. So definitely towards the end, I think myself and our listeners would love some tips.
Melissa Landry:
Yeah.
Danny Shapiro:
Sure. No, absolutely. Of course. Got plenty and another point too, people who are bodybuilders, who are Arnold Schwarzenegger, The Rock, these people all have injuries. I hope everyone’s aware of that. Just because someone is carrying around 250 pounds of pure muscle, 3% body fat. I worked with plenty of bodybuilders. Terrible hip pain, knee pain, back pain, their shoulder blades are stiff, they can’t open up fully because of some passed injury that blocked them from something. We’re all human, we all get pain and again, whether you’re a big body builder or someone who is struggling in a bigger body, it doesn’t matter. It’s okay to struggle with pain. Work past it, overcome it, work through it and move those muscles, move those shoulders to a beat if you need to, but that’s really the thing though, right? Mobility is the key. It’s the key that unlocks all doors, right? Dalina, you mentioned it, you started to be less active and you’re starting to feel certain things. That’s normal, right?
Dalina Soto:
You don’t use it, you lose it, that’s what I always say.
Danny Shapiro:
Pretty much. Well, that’s actually 100% true. I’ve spoken to hundreds, if not thousands of people from the start of quarantine in New York, especially around the end of March, beginning of April, pretty much a week after quarantine started, that’s when everybody’s pain started. That’s when the neck pain started. That’s when the low back pain, hip pain started. The knees are making weird noises. I’m climbing stairs. I’m like, “What is happening?” Going down to a cabinet, I can’t get up. What happened, right? Mobility. You stopped moving as much and then that’s what happens.
Dalina Soto:
I love it. Love hearing that. I’m glad my knees aren’t the only ones cracking out here.
Melissa Landry:
You’re not alone. You can hear her coming.
Danny Shapiro:
Oh, there you go. There you go.
Melissa Landry:
So, that’s such a powerful takeaway, I think, right there is how you relate to the pain. So, many of our clients feel fear. They feel shame when that pain physically arises within them and that actually causes them to freeze up and avoid, instead of what you’re saying to do, which is to say okay, when you notice that fear and that shame, what if instead you said, “Okay, this is part of the process of being a human. This is part of being alive and wow, what a wonderful signal my body gave me that it wants more, that it wants more movement. It wants more rhythm.” Like you’re saying, you want to add a beat. You can relate to pain so much differently when you have that attitude and you don’t turn it into blame or wallow on what has happened before or stay stuck on what’s happened before.
Danny Shapiro:
Absolutely. Pain is not only physical. It’s emotional, right? Again, as someone who’s been in pain, I know what that feels like, right? And not just, “Oh, I bruised my shoulder.” Like I said, I literally couldn’t walk, right? My own brother also had a back injury. He blew up three desks, right? He couldn’t move for a long time and it was very serious. So, I very much so connect to the idea of what pain can do to you physically and emotionally and I’m going to tell you right now, when I had that back pain injury, I was at my lowest point. Forget physically. At that time, I was actually preparing for a bodybuilding competition, right? So that aside, mentally I was destroyed, right? Destroyed. I didn’t want to do anything. The last thing I thought about was moving. I was genuinely depressed about just my current state.
Danny Shapiro:
How can I let this happen to myself? I was someone who has been moving for the majority of my life, right? Again, professional dancer for 16 years and here I could barely get off the couch and make a step forward, right? So, I understand where pain comes from and pain needs to be addressed in both of those respects and you cannot wallow in it. You cannot just sink into the abyss of pain. No. You got to get up from there. You got to move out of there and you’ve got to look at it as yes, my body gave me a signal that I’m doing something wrong. How can I fix it? How can I properly address my movement deficits? Is it my posture? Is that the way I walk? Maybe my knees go inwards when I walk and I need to change that. Maybe I need to strengthen the outside of my hips to help my knees to open up, right?
Danny Shapiro:
All these little signals, our body’s trying to tell us something, sending us little SOS messages. We just have to be open to receiving them. We’ve got to turn on those same wavelengths and get those messages and do something about it.
Melissa Landry:
Yes. So beautiful and our listeners are very familiar with some of those SOS messages, such as hunger, such as fullness, such as emotions that can come up. All of these are physical sensations in the body and so Danny, I just see your work as such a beautiful extension and wrap around to anyone who’s practicing intuitive eating because they can use that similar framework. What they are going to need though is specific steps and plans and that’s where physical therapists are so powerful because you guys have the study and the sequence and the practice to actually get people from A to B. So, that’s super powerful too.
Melissa Landry:
The hip pain piece. We’re talking a little bit about the knees. Was there anything we might add about hip pain in particular? I’m not going to lie to you, I saw one of your videos where you lifted your leg up and you rotated it out and then you tapped the toe and then you pick the knee back up and then you brought it forward and I’ve been trying those for my hippie dippies because they hurt sometimes.
Danny Shapiro:
Hippie dippies. Love it.
Melissa Landry:
Do you have any other thoughts about hips compared to knees when people are asking these questions that they think that hip pain and weight are related? Any other additional insights you might add?
Danny Shapiro:
Well, so to be a little bit technical here. So, the knees move in two primary directions, right? They either band or straighten. They do have slight rotation, but it’s very slight. Now, the hip is like the shoulder joint, but for the lower body. Our shoulders are the most mobile joint in our entire body. It has the most range of motion in all directions. It is a beautiful joint.
Melissa Landry:
That’s incredible.
Danny Shapiro:
Right?
Melissa Landry:
Everybody’s moving them on camera. Everyone’s just like-
Danny Shapiro:
Yeah. I hope so.
Dalina Soto:
We’re all exercising now.
Danny Shapiro:
Yeah. No and that’s the thing though, right? And the thing that has the most mobility actually tends to be the most injured, which is interesting, right? The more mobile the joint, the more perimeters to injury because it can move in different directions and when you have physical contact, whether you fall or you hit, whatever. Someone bumps into you, right? Things can happen. Now, to bring it down to the hips, right? Because I said the hips is like the shoulder joint of the lower body. The hip is also very mobile, right? So, when people are concerned about weight gain and hip pain, again it can be a factor, but I’m going to bring it back to movement. When is the last time, right? Now Melissa, you tried the move for your hippy dippy, right? But when is the last time you did that movement?
Melissa Landry:
It’s been a long time. Honestly. I’ve not been stretching and I used to do yoga here and there. I don’t have a practice for that and I think that’s what’s so hard for people. It’s hard to set up the time and the consistency with that because we don’t like slowing down. We don’t like being in our head for a minute. That’s at least my thing is like okay, do I really want to spend 15 minutes stretching?
Dalina Soto:
I know. It’s so tough to think about stretching. I can do something else, but stretching seems boring. Sorry, Danny, but it really does.
Danny Shapiro:
I understand. Yeah.
Melissa Landry:
We got to reconnect it to the process though and I think that a lot of people, when we work with them, what are we doing? We’re saying to people, what’s your why? Why is this important to you? How do you connect motivation? For me, I don’t want to feel tense and tight. I also want to practice being mindful. I don’t want to be this person that’s frenzied and can’t slow down for five minutes. So, that might be different for someone else, but connecting to your why and then coming up with a plan. Those are two really powerful steps to get over the boredom part, I guess.
Danny Shapiro:
Exactly and that’s something that I want to make very clear for everyone that’s listening is that whether you want to be able to walk for an hour or lift your kids, right? But this hip pain or back pain, whatever it is that you’re dealing with, is stopping you, right? Which one is more important? Avoiding that 15 minutes of stretching and not being able to lift your kids, right? Not being able to sit down without being uncomfortable for a meal with your husband, with your wife, with whoever, with friends, right? Walking outside to get your mail or can you invest that 15 minutes into your wellbeing, into your health? So, you can kick those things out. Kick the worries out, kick the stiffness out, to make sure that you have a much higher quality of life, right? It’s for your longevity, right?
Danny Shapiro:
If 15 minutes a day, you could prevent injuries, stiffness, you can maintain your mobility. You can, whatever, do anything it is that… We all enjoy something, right? We all have an injury. Some people like to sit down for two hours and read, right? Now, if you have hip pain, that actually might be very difficult because you’re going to have to keep shifting. You can’t actually focus on what you’re reading, right? Or if you want to go for a walk, but you literally can’t walk more than three minutes, right? You want to lift your kids, but every time you go down to bend and get your two year old, your back grabs and you literally feel you can’t move or every time you sit it down on the toilet, you can’t get back up. Is 15 minutes really that bad?
Melissa Landry:
Yeah.
Danny Shapiro:
Right?
Melissa Landry:
Yeah. It’s really about your choice, right? What is it that you want to choose to do? And for some people who have lower grade pain that they can live with, that’s another choice you get to make to say, “You know what? I’m going to live with this and by living with it, I’m not going to further the suffering by beating myself up every time that little hippy dippy pain pops up. I’m not going to make that mean something about me. If that’s my choice to live with the pain and live through the pain, don’t add suffering.” So, you have a lot of places where you can go. You can stay as it is and accept it. You can say, “This is where it is and I don’t accept it,” and give yourself a plan. You can explore other options.
Melissa Landry:
I had a client recently who said, “I know my toe pain is related to my weight,” and I said, “Well, if you were in a smaller body, what would you do about that toe pain?” She’s like, “Well, I might go to the podiatrist. I might get the right size shoes. I might rub them out. I might use the balls that I have,” and she started doing that, the pain went away and she said, “Okay, never again am I going to connect that to weight.” So, I think these exercises are really powerful first in the mind and then if the choice is I actually want to do the steps, then PT is incredible because they’re going to give you the accountability, the points in the right direction. It’ll help it happen faster, more efficiently than if you’re on your own.
Danny Shapiro:
Absolutely and for those who are looking to make that change, right? Going to a PT. One of the most important things is because PTs are supposed to be there to support you, right? No matter what size you are, right? No matter who I’m working with, I’m there to support you and your goals. We’ll make it happen, right? We’ll find a way to make sure that we make sure that your goals are achieved, right?
Danny Shapiro:
And when you’re looking for a PT, just like when you’re going to a doctor, if you’re not feeling like you’re being heard, find a different PT. If you’re not feeling like they’re actually dismissing the fact that you may be in a larger body, find a different PT, right? If they’re not focusing on how to get you moving in a way that will help you, not just the generic nonsense that they pump out to 100 people with the similar pain and that is nonsense, find a different PT, right? You need to find someone who’s going to listen to you, who is not going to just judge you and give you the death sentence of weight gain. Lose it or else we can’t do anything, right? Well, you need to find someone who can work around it, who can help you no matter what and that’s what is honestly missing both from the PT world and from the doctor’s world because everyone who I’ve spoken to, lose weight, we’ll talk.
Melissa Landry:
Yeah.
Dalina Soto:
Why? That’s what we ask ourselves every day.
Melissa Landry:
Yeah.
Danny Shapiro:
And even so, let’s say you do that, right? So, let’s say, he says, “You need to lose 50 pounds.” You know what? Let’s make it even smaller. Let’s say you need to lose 20 pounds. You know what? Let’s make it even smaller than that. Let’s say 10 pounds. Okay. 10 pounds. Now, a healthy weight loss is around two, three pounds a month. You don’t really want to exceed that because you want to be healthy, right? In terms of how much weight you drop at once. Now, if they’re going to drop, let’s say, two pounds a month. That’s five months to drop 10 pounds. That means you’re in pain for five months. That means you’re walking around with whatever’s causing your pain for five months, possibly taking Advil, possibly looking into injections, possibly looking into X, Y, and Z and you’ve just spent five months in pain and by the way, you’re going to lose that 10 pounds and still feel no change.
Melissa Landry:
And if you didn’t do it sustainably, it’s coming right back, which is what the data shows, 95% of diets fail. So the mindset, if you do believe in weight loss, if you’re at that point where, “Oh, it’s possible. I can definitely plow through and make it happen,” you’re at minimum waiting five months for your relief and the broader literature shows that those who try to lose weight can not do so sustainably because restriction. There’s a limitation around what’s possible because of restriction.
Dalina Soto:
And the added stress is probably adding onto your pain anyway. [crosstalk 00:25:28] The not nourishing your muscles and joints is adding to your pain anyway because let’s be honest, there’s no weight loss without some sort of restriction and that takes away the nourishment from your body.
Melissa Landry:
That’s true.
Danny Shapiro:
Yeah. So, all of these things combined together just account for more suffering, more stress, right? More of a headache and you’re still at the same place, if not worse, five months later, one month later-
Melissa Landry:
You continue to work on that pain or deal with that pain.
Danny Shapiro:
Exactly.
Dalina Soto:
Right.
Danny Shapiro:
Which is a problem.
Melissa Landry:
This sort of reversed answered our last question, which is that someone said, “When they struggle to a walk, they automatically could start thinking how should I lose weight?” They connect that I’m struggling. If I lose weight, it’ll be better and I think you just answered this for us.
Dalina Soto:
Yes, you did.
Melissa Landry:
In the process of pursuing that idea of weight loss, you’re not actually making yourself stronger. The behaviors are what are going to make you stronger and make the pain go away. So, that’s really the focus.
Danny Shapiro:
Exactly and just proper movement, proper mobility, though if you really want to go down the weight loss journey, that will happen, but only once you’re not struggling through the process, you’re enjoying the process. You’re enjoying the move. You’re enjoying the walk, right? It has to come from a place of enjoyment. Same as the stretching. That’s why I said yes, it’s suffering, but throw in a beat, make a little routine out of it. Get a stretch buddy, right? Get your other friends, a family member, whoever. Stretch with them. It’s only going to help them too, right? So-
Dalina Soto:
Melissa doesn’t want to be my stretch buddy-
Danny Shapiro:
Melissa.
Melissa Landry:
You know what, Danny? She wants to do this at 7:00 in the morning.
Danny Shapiro:
Wonderful.
Melissa Landry:
I told her I would put the video on. She can watch me sleep and I’ll raise my hand [crosstalk 00:00:27:21]. You go girl!
Danny Shapiro:
Well, hey. Whatever works.
Melissa Landry:
I’m a late riser. So, this is incredible. Your story is so inspiring. Your approach to physical therapy is so inspiring. I think a lot of people would probably feel very validated hearing someone like you share this information and empower them because a lot of times we hear that it wasn’t the experience from both doctors and not always, but sometimes PTs too, same with dieticians, right? You’ve got to find your fit and your match and someone’s going to empower you. Do you have maybe one or two takeaways for the listeners? A little send off message for them to really act on what you’ve shared today?
Danny Shapiro:
So, the biggest thing and this is something that I advocate on social media is just if you’re going to find a health care professional to help you with your pains and aches, find someone who will listen to you and someone who will work around… Focus more on getting you to the outcome as opposed to how you look currently, right? That’s number one. Find someone who will really listen to you and help you with getting your desired outcome. Number two is just movement. Movement, movement, movement. Not for the sake of weight loss, but for the sake of lubricating your joints and making your body happy, right? Making your hip happy, your knees happy, your ankles happy. That back movement, delicious, right? Make it feel good! I’m getting into myself yet.
Dalina Soto:
Yeah, you’re getting into your dance moves.
Danny Shapiro:
I’m feeling it, right? I have to film another video today, make another dancing video, but move, right? Mobility. Real good mobility that’s going to help the joints, not harm you. If you’re having trouble doing standing exercises or mobility exercises, great. Sit down and do them. Find ones that work, right? Work around it. If you have pain sitting then lay down and do mobility. There’s so many things you can do, but the number one thing that you have to do is to do it, right? And then you’re going to be so much happier. These knee aches and knee pains, the hip pains, back pains, it’s all going to be a thing of the past as long as you do it and you do it properly.
Melissa Landry:
Yeah, it’s possible.
Dalina Soto:
I love it.
Melissa Landry:
You are not doomed if you are in a bigger body and you feel pain and you have difficulty with your mobility. You are not doomed. These are wonderful tips, Danny. Where can the people find you? Tell us your Insta handle and what you’re up to.
Danny Shapiro:
Sure. So for Instagram, you can find me at Official Danny Shapiro. That’s where it’s my main platform and if you want to go to my website, see what else. If you’re in New York and New Jersey and you want to work together, your interested in finding out what can be done. If you’re feeling doomed, I’m going to un-doom you. So, we’ll make it work. You can go to Projectphysicaltherapy.com and there’s a bunch of different places you can go to. I have some back pain reports, some knee pain reports, some shoulder pain reports. I’ve got a bunch of stuff on there. So Instagram, Official Danny Shapiro and you can find me on online at Projectphysicaltherapy.com.
Melissa Landry:
Amazing. Let’s get you nationwide. I love it and I’m just going to put a plug, not now, but maybe down the line. Do you know Dalina loves to dance Bachata? And you were part-
Danny Shapiro:
So I heard.
Dalina Soto:
But I’m not professional like he is. He’s a professional dancer. Now I’m all in my head.
Danny Shapiro:
Oh no, I didn’t mean to psych you out.
Melissa Landry:
Well, someday, maybe when quarantines over, maybe virtually, I’m just going to put that out there, perhaps there’s some sort of challenge or interaction. I don’t know. We’ll see. I’m just putting that out in the universe
Danny Shapiro:
Hands down. I’m so… Dalina?
Dalina Soto:
I’m down, but it’s not going to be professional. I’ll tell you that much.
Danny Shapiro:
Hey, I didn’t dance Bachata professionally, right? So, it’s fair ground here. I just know how to move my hips. I’m going to just do some stuff-
Melissa Landry:
And I’ll press play on the music.
Danny Shapiro:
There you go. We need a press play person-
Melissa Landry:
I don’t mind. I know my way around a dance floor, but I have no professional skills whatsoever.
Danny Shapiro:
No, you just threw yourself under the bus and you’re joining us.
Melissa Landry:
Okay. There it is. All right. [crosstalk 00:31:41] Well, until then my friends, Danny, thank you so much for spending time with us today. You are a joy. I appreciate so much what you’re doing. We will see you around Insta as well as the rest of you listening. Thanks for being here today.
Danny Shapiro:
My pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. This is really great. So, you guys are very bubbly and I love it. It’s just a positive emotion, a positive, yeah. I feel very fresh right now to be honest and that’s because of you two. [crosstalk 00:32:10]
Melissa Landry:
Thank you.
Danny Shapiro:
So peppy and bubbly. I love it. [crosstalk 00:32:16] No. This has been really great and I feel like by having someone like myself on, whether it was me or somebody else, just the fact that you’re trying to provide even more value to your audience and to show them that from the physical side, it’s just so awesome and so important and I hope as many people as possible can hear this because I really do wish for a pain free world and while may put me out of business, I’m totally fine with that because-
Dalina Soto:
That’s how we feel too-
Danny Shapiro:
Exactly.
Melissa Landry:
We’ll do something else.
Danny Shapiro:
Yeah. Exactly. Find something. I don’t know, but it’s really awesome what you guys are doing and I love all of your stuff on Instagram and may you keep on doing this forever.
Dalina Soto:
Aw, thanks for helping us out, Danny.
Danny Shapiro:
Of course.
Melissa Landry:
Bye everybody. Thank you.
Dalina Soto:
Bye.
Danny Shapiro:
Bye.
