Meet Stephanie! Stephanie is a No More Guilt Client who is sharing her story on today’s episode.
- how to let go of the idea of “good” and “bad” foods
- mindset skills from Melissa’s No Guilt Framework that helped Stephanie find peace with former binge foods, and
- the RADICAL insight she learned about emotional eating (spoiler alert: sometimes, it’s the answer).
Especially if you don’t know anyone else who struggles with emotional eating like you – Stephanie’s story will empower you try new things as an Intuitive Eater to breakthrough and finally find peace!
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what if emotional eating is the answer with Stephanie J transcript
Melissa Landry 0:02 Hi there, I'm Melissa, a registered dietitian specialize in intuitive eating for on again off again, chronic dieters, and I'm here to help you take the guilt and stress out of eating so you can be the first in your family to break the diet cycle. I'm interested in helping you unlearn generational diet trauma, so you can be who you are without food guilt. Be sure to follow on Instagram at no more guilt for more support between these episodes. Are you ready? Let's jump in. How are you today? Last time I was solo and today I have brought in a guest in my former client, Stephanie. I am thrilled to share her story with you. We're going to jump right in. But before we do, I want to let you know that Stephanie mentioned some methods and programs that she used to use as a former Dieter, I don't think any of them will be a surprise to you. She will mention specific weight loss numbers she wants saw in the past. And usually in the spirit of eating disorder recovery and supporting you as chronic dieters, I would edit this type of content out because it can be activating or triggering for those of you that are trying to move on. But I did keep it in this episode because I want you to understand the specifics of Stephanie's journey to this point. I think that can help in some instances for you to understand, you know, what are your similarities or differences with the stories of folks you're listening to. So if you are not in a space today, that you can hear weight loss numbers or hear about specific weight loss methods without feeling triggered or activated. This is your chance to opt out of today's episode. We'll catch you next week. Otherwise, if you're feeling good about it, I am too. I trust you to know yourself. Let me introduce you to my friend Stephanie. Stephanie 1:53 Well, hello, my name is Stephanie. And I'm 42 years old. I live in a suburb of Denver, Colorado. I have a seven year old and I've been married for almost 11 years and I do hair for a living. Melissa Landry 2:08 Your Small Biz owner. Stephanie's also has a cat we're seeing her. As you know, I'm more of a dog person. But I'm open to cat lovers as well. So I'm glad we could make it work in our coaching relationship. Stephanie 2:22 I say hello, guys. So if you hear a random meow, Melissa Landry 2:26 that's what's happening. Yeah. Well, I was so delighted to have you on Stephanie. We had so many conversations through our work together. I think that you were someone who was so vulnerable and brave pushing through some of your initial fears. So I'm excited to share your story today. I want to start from the beginning. Tell us a little bit about your early experiences with dieting. How did it all start with you and your dieting relationship? Stephanie 2:51 Oh, you know, my very first time that I decided to die it i think i was i was actually older than a lot of people I was maybe 20. I did not grow up in a family that was really entrenched in diet culture, luckily. But I had put on some weight I put on about 20 pounds my freshman year of college, and I did a low fat diet at the time. And I think I restricted myself to like 20 grams of fat a day and I took I took like pills, if you can believe it that like blocked my fat. And I dropped that 20 pounds in like a month, which we all know now that that is extremely unhealthy. But I kept that weight off surprisingly, for probably 10 years or so without very much effort. And then around 31 I started to put weight on again and joined. Are you allowed to say major diet? Melissa Landry 3:51 Oh, yeah, you can you can mention specifics. But we'll put a little warning at the front of this, if anyone doesn't want to hear the specifics. But I want to pause here because I think that's one of the most difficult parts of like doing intuitive eating on your own. It's like you want to talk specifics about like, the stuff that you did, because those specifics are the messages in your brain you have to reckon with now. So I would love for you to share the programs you've done so the listener can understand like if it relates or not. Yeah. Stephanie 4:18 So I joined Weight Watchers, and I was initially successful with it. I think I ended up losing about 25 pounds in five month period. So it wasn't like insanely fast per se. But it was still it was still restrictive. And at the time, I didn't recognize it because in my head, I could have whatever I want. I just as long as I track it and count the points. But eventually, it started to not work and I started kind of obsessing about certain thumb, cereal, trail mix, hummus, these were all the things Who's that, although they were never like, quote unquote, not allowed, they were high in points and so only get so many points a day. And trail mix cost half a bum, you kind of don't want the trail mix. So just like everyone else, or I should say most people, not everybody, I eventually stopped working the plan. And I started eating all the things I remember, there was one Christmas, that um, you know, those cookies are like shortbread with chocolate on the top of them. And they're like, there was a chest looking piece. And anyway, but somebody brought those to work. And I literally ate almost the entire tin through the course of one day. And then it got to a point where I actually hit it on top of a cabinet, just so I couldn't see it anymore and couldn't keep binging on it. So I went on and off Weight Watchers from the time I was 31 until probably, I don't know, maybe two years ago. And it just it never, it would stick a little less every single time I rejoined. So like the second time around, I lost the weight again. Then I got pregnant for my cute little boy Nathan. And then it was all about losing the quote unquote baby weight. And you know, how fast can I do that without taking into consideration at all that my body, I had to have a cesarean and there was a lot of stuff. And I was like back in a Weight Watchers meeting at three weeks postpartum. And it just got to a point that I would maybe work the plan for a week, and then it went down to maybe a few days. And then it got to a point where I was only doing it for a day at a time and then something would trigger me anything any kind of emotion good or bad. And I would head straight for whatever binge food I wanted at the time. And I will point I will say that I have quote technically gained the way back again, I am back up to what my original starting weight was. So then that sense, it didn't actually work. Every time that it that I would stop doing it and would regain weight. Um, initially, I honestly thought it was my fault. I just I really did. I'm like, Oh, well, I'm not counting, I'm not staying on plan. And the more often it happened, where I would get back on plan and then go off and regain weight, the more I really started to wonder. I don't know that there's anything wrong with me. Maybe this just isn't right for me. And it was around that time about three years ago that I found the intuitive eating book, and truthfully, I don't remember how I found it. But I did. And that was what led me to do over the last three years to you eventually. Melissa Landry 8:02 Yeah, you were like doing a little DIY, you were kind of unsocial, what were the aspects of intuitive eating, you felt like you were able to accomplish on your own? Do you? Do you feel like you made progress prior to the program? Stephanie 8:15 Yes, a little bit. And, in fact, Melissa, it wasn't until your program that I realized how much progress I have actually made the movement piece is it feel your body or move your body and feel the difference? That piece has always been very solid for me. Another one that I hadn't fully realized that I had accomplished was the rejecting not protecting diet culture. So I'm still working on that, but more just not having the food police around me. I'm very, very good at not labeling foods good or bad. And I've realized again, through your program that I can have many of those forbidden foods in my house now. And I don't even think about them like cookies, ice cream, chips, cereal, cereal I stole the volatile relationship with but I still keep it in my house. I don't deem it as bad, per se. Melissa Landry 9:13 So that cognitive shift or thinking shift happened over the three years you and it sounds like you had that critical nature about you anyway, but you're kind of like, maybe it's not my fault. Like that seems like a really important first thought to have. So any of you listening who are like I still question about whether it's my fault. What if you leaned into that one idea that it's not your fault that you're not the only one struggling with diets because that's going to open you up to take in this information in a totally different way and maybe use it in the ways that Stephanie's talking about so that's true your you were able to evaluate your joyful movement practice was working for you and you were able to stop the good and bad labels on your own. Okay. Yeah, and another thing is like so often When we're working on stuff, we're so worried about what we're not doing, or what's like not going well. And one of the key parts of our program was actually forcing you guys to pause and reflect on that. And so if you're not quite sure what your your wins are right now, you can ask yourself right now, like, what's different than six months ago? A year ago, pick a timeframe. That's what me and Stephanie in our group were doing to, for her to be able to say that today? And if not, then you can invest in the service of having someone help you to understand where am I in comparison to where I was or where I want to be. So that's a great takeaway for everyone that it's nice to remember you're not, you know, starting from scratch a lot of the time. Okay, so what was left when you decided to join the program? What was it that made you want to get help? Given that you had made some progress? What was it that you were really hoping for at that time? Stephanie 10:52 Well, in that moment, I, first of all, I didn't really think I had made progress. And so I was very, like you had said, very self critical. And I was still, quote, unquote, binging I use that word very loosely, because I don't, I don't know that I actually binge in the truest sense of the word, but I will eat a lot of bowls of cereal in a short amount of time. So to me, that is a binge, I think I was just kind of at my wit's end with feeling like I wasn't getting it. And so I was, you know, doing this activity, almost daily of eating all this cereal to the point I was feeling sick. And I just felt lost. I felt like I needed more guidance, more structure. And I think it was right around the time that I found your program. And it just seemed exactly the structure and guidance that I needed. In that moment. Melissa Landry 11:49 I remember when you were deciding whether or not to do the program, and I love talking to you, because you can hear now in in your your storytelling, something like you took this really seriously. And you had thought a lot about what would make you successful, and you had done a lot of really hard work on your own. And I love that at that time, you were very specific and saying like, will it help me do X? What would we do in X situation? That's another skill I want people to know about. Like, you're allowed to ask the people you work with how they're going to approach the problems you've been facing. Many hesitations that clients have are like, Could I just do this on my own? Should I keep doing this on my own? And that's such a normal thing. Look, if you can go for it, you should. But if you can't, it's helpful to know specifically what you want. And I love that you had those questions. So you could learn like, yeah, no, this program will be a good fit or not for you. Yeah. Is that just like how you are? Is that your personality? That you're a great interviewer? Why was it that you were so clear on what you wanted? At that point? Do you think? Ah, Stephanie 12:52 you know, because I think in general, I have a very clear picture of what I would like my life to be like, and what I would like to accomplish. It's funny, though, because like, if you asked me what my goals are, sometimes I freeze and I'm like, Well, I don't know what my goals are. But I also know, very concisely, like, Okay, this is the issue that I'm having right now. And I really, really want to solve this is no nonsense. Melissa Landry 13:23 isn't the issue? Yeah, I mean, and you're living with it, of course, you're able to say it specifically, it's kind of a cool thing to be able to get that concise feedback. And that's what coaching programs are meant for coaching should highlight and focus on individual behaviors, and be working to those little steps at a time. So that's why coaching was of that for you. Someone else who doesn't have that urgency around a specific thing. Maybe you're more of a philosophical learner around intuitive eating. Yeah, maybe coaching wouldn't be as satisfying for you might want a support group or like a book group, something like of that nature. So it does different folks at different levels are going to need different types of learning spaces. And this is the one that made sense for you. Yes, when you got into the program, I'm sure you had all sorts of like expectations of what was going to happen. And then there's what actually happens. What would you say some of the things you learned through the program were and did they? Is it what you expected? Is that what you're expecting to learn? Stephanie 14:22 What I was expecting was just some guidelines on how to use intuitive eating better. But what I ended up getting was even more than I was expecting because what I loved about the program is that you instead of us taking it all on at once. You had us pick one or two goals, and that was our focus. And I loved the fact that we did it that way because I think by picking those we were able to hone in on exactly the pieces of intuitive eating that we really needed to work On the most first and then just by taking it in baby steps, you know, having a set a goal and saying like, okay, you know, this is about how much you can expect to improve in this amount of time. I think doing it that way was very realistic and very refreshing. Especially for a person like me, that's like the super. You no overachiever wants to be perfect right away. And I'm, again, I'm working on it. So I'm the perfectionist. But it's yeah, it was just, I think what I took out of it more was I was expecting to like, just get this kind of general framework. But it was so specific, that had helped me way more in my, Melissa Landry 15:39 yeah, the specific piece, it takes one to know one, I've talked on this podcast before. But my own journey with working through perfectionist anxiety and dealing with uncertainty. Whenever we can take the big thing and break it down small, instantly, we feel more empowered, we feel more clear, we feel less anxious. And that's going to motivate us to experiment. And when we can experiment, then we can get examples of what works and what does not. And that is the whole crux of intuitive eating, I don't mind telling anyone out there for free. That's it. That's how you become successful as intuitive eaters, you just get started. So one of the things we worked on Yes, are the intuitive eating principles. But guys, truth be told the informations out there, we can read about it. There's podcasts, there's Insta pages, there's name it. The real work happens when you have a process. And so that's something that even at the end of the program, we talked about, like okay, well, how are we going to work the process now, now that you're more on your own? So I'm glad that that was helpful in a strong takeaway for you. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about you know, what, what you're working on now? What, what is some of the places that you're paying attention to around intuitive eating these days, Stephanie 16:50 I've ended up picking two goals. And they were both more or less around hunger and fullness cues, and then also feeling my emotions. And initially, I kind of started with hunger and fullness thinking, well, if I can just get in tune with my hunger and fullness, it'll all you know, just work magically. But in the process, it made me realize that I fully eat my emotions, good, bad, it does not matter. I fully eat them. And so that was the one that we really ended up honing in on, because we kind of figured out that if I could name my emotions, feel them sit with them, that it might actually end up making, feeling my hunger and fullness cues a little bit easier. And one thing that you said, Melissa, during our coaching that just was mind blowing to me was when I was telling you about how, gosh, I just can't stop eating my emotions. And I just always seem to do this. You said, Well, what if eating is the right answer? Like whatever is going on, and then I've already checked off all the other things. And then it comes down to you know what, I just really want a snack. I'm not feeling good right now. And you just were so simple. You're like, yeah, what if? What if having the food is the answer right now? Melissa Landry 18:17 Radical very different than what you might have heard before. Most people love love that answer because it's like the, we're adding emotion when we fight with it, right? Like we're making it harder. And so why do you think that that was so impactful for you? What was it about that message that helped? Stephanie 18:35 Because I have never, ever been told that before ever, by any other diet that I was on. I guess maybe when I was a kid, my mom might have done some soothing with ice cream and stuff. But, um, in when I was so enmeshed in diet culture, the message was always find something else to do busy your hands, you know, go read a book, which is all fine. And I do still sometimes use distraction as well. But just the fact that I was given permission to just go ahead and have the food. And truthfully, there was one day in particular, I had a really difficult client, and I got done with it. And my first thought was, I really, really just want a snack. And we had just had that coaching like a day before. And I just, you know, I said it's okay, have the snack. And I really believe that if I had just kept pushing that down, I probably would have went home and eaten a whole box of cereal. Melissa Landry 19:35 Yeah, well, you got an opportunity to to try something different and anything in life, like your relationship to food, if you're working on a problem at work, or I don't know you're doing some hobby or something and you're just stuck on this one thing. It's kind of a nice idea to stop hitting the same hammer over and over again and anytime you can get feedback that helps you to do opposite action or take a different lens or a different angle. Again, as learners, it's going to open up all of these new experiences and ideas. And that's what happened for you. So strategically speaking, it's scary, but we can learn to emotionally eat well. And that's the practice. You know, once you hear that message, you've got to actually go out and practice emotional eating in a way that really works for you, which you did go on to do and you still practice that seem to change, the games have felt a little more hopeful and possible, versus the same old thing over and over again. Stephanie 20:28 Exactly. Melissa Landry 20:29 we work together, there was a six week intensive that you participated in. And that intensive extends three months for you to do self study, and you still have access to our community and group, we did a debrief call, and I got to know some of your hopes, we helped you to kind of hone in on the next steps. But I'd love a little update, like what are you looking forward to in your relationship with food now that you're here and you have some more positive Intuitive Eating experiences under your belt. Stephanie 20:58 So I'm really hopeful that I will fully get to a point that I am just 100% Okay, with who I am my body, and my eating habits, and knowing that it's okay, and that I can trust my body to lead me to what I need. And, you know, I eventually am hopeful to get out of completely out of diet culture, and I don't know, if because we're so enmeshed in it, I don't know if I'll ever fully get out of it, because people are always talking about it. And, you know, Melissa Landry 21:36 I think we'd need to make a commune stuff, maybe we can be the leaders. And it's very hard to hide. Stephanie 21:42 Yeah, so I think moving forward, it's just more, you know, realizing more and more that I do have the, the wherewithal to, I can make my decisions, and they don't have to be what is so ingrained in my head is good or bad. It's, you know, it's okay, if I want to snack a little bit more in one day, and it's okay to just accept my body's signals. And I don't have to try to control everything so much. Melissa Landry 22:14 Yeah, there's more trust in the process. And, and you already have a little bit of trust, you know, these examples you're giving, it's so important to have them because without they call this and counseling or coaching like exception to the rule, like we need to find exceptions to our ideas about ourselves. Because without them, how do we push back on that negative thinking? How do we push back on those beliefs that came from diet culture or your mom growing up or wherever it came from? You owe it to yourself to show yourself that you are who you think you are. And I think that's one of the hardest things for for chronic dieters is this idea of like, because it didn't succeed this people in the world think that I'm not all the different assumptions we have about what it means when you're thin and successful with dieting. Yeah, when you are practicing intuitive eating, and you show yourself like, no, no, I'm not lazy. I'm not demotivated, I'm not a quote, mess. I'm actually am someone who's put together and self aware and compassionate and I'm living my values. Everything gets easier. And I hope that for you, I can see you on that path of kind of uncoupling all those ideas about yourself for the first time, which is beautiful. Yes, yeah. What do you think it's going to be like? So like, let's say, you know, you keep going and diet culture and food drama is a little bit less part of your day to day What are you looking forward to in that future state? Stephanie 23:39 Just mental freedom, you know, the just, I mean, I like even just saying that out loud. I feel this like wideness just kind of come over me and just being able to live my life without worrying about, you know, am I going to eat too much? Or am I going to you know, do I look too fat to this person or just that freedom of, of knowing that I'm okay. Melissa Landry 24:07 Yeah, like being confident being present. All things that kind of get robbed when we're our brain is constantly scanning and thinking how to eat quote, eat better, whatever that means. Yep. So that freedom feels nice. And by the way, did we all just catch Stephanie using her body awareness skills right there right like this. Like she described it as feeling light. That's exactly the kind of stuff that she was able to build on from past experiences she's had and then through the program use that as part of her emotional coping skills. So like, I see it I see it still happening. We love to see it so good. You, you know when we talked about during the podcast like all my clients, there was a little bit of nerves coming in. But then before the podcast you shared why you ultimately did want to do this. Can you tell us why? Why was it important for you to share your story today? This was incredibly generous and brave of you to do why Are you here? Stephanie 25:02 I love podcasts. And I listen to them all the time, including Melissa's, and my favorite episodes are the ones where guests come on and tell their story. And I just I love hearing other people's experiences, because ultimately, I always take a nugget out of it, and it resonates with me. So even though I was a little nervous to do it, I really wanted to, because I feel that there will be somebody out there that will listen to this episode. And something I say, will spark something in them. And I just I want to help people relate, because sometimes it can feel lonely when you're in this. And it's, it's good to know that you you do have others like you. Melissa Landry 25:49 Yeah, it's often the biggest roadblock, right that we feel like we're the only ones going through it. Or we're the only ones who are, you know, taking this long to figure it out. Or maybe it's the other end of the spectrum, or you have people who are actively sabotaging your efforts. So knowing that there's a greater community and a collective out there is so helpful. I want to summarize what I heard you say as takeaway so that anyone listen to this could use you as a role model, because you are one, you are somebody who struggled with this for a long time. You made your own path, and then you invested in support to take it even deeper. I want to summarize what I hear your specific qualities and strengths are, but I want you to talk to the people. What is some advice that you would give someone who's maybe becoming aware that dieting is not for them? They're starting to understand intuitive eating, but they feel afraid? What is it that you would say to that person to help them move forward in this process? Stephanie 26:49 I would say I first of all, I get it, I understand the fear of letting go of those rules that are so internalized, it's very scary. And the first thought you have is oh my gosh, am I going to gain a ton of weight. But I would say if you're already at that point where you're questioning, it's not working. So maybe it's time to try something different and try something that can work for the rest of your life and just do it just and I think for me personally, getting a coach is probably the best bet. Because I'm getting the book and trying to read it. I wanted to do all the things immediately. And I think that can be a little overwhelming. So I would say if you can find a coach, find a community and focus on just one thing at a time. But just know that the freedom that comes with it is worth it. Melissa Landry 27:48 Absolutely not. That's the takeaway. I think that's come up each time through these questions. Is that focusing on one thing, liberated you to actually do things? Well, I always joke my husband says this too, because I'm like this I try to take on too much. He's like Melissa whole ass one thing. Don't half ass everything. And I'm like, Thank you needed that. We need to hear that around our intuitive eating process. We need to put our whole heart into one thing. Yes, I started a client this morning and she had like all of our group did to I was like, I don't know I want all this I want all the goals I that's part of my job is to help people like it's okay. And we were talking about success at one goal winds up it's like dominoes, it winds up impacting another that was true for you, Stephanie, you said you started with hunger and fullness. And through that pursuit you realize some stuff about emotions. And then suddenly we're on that path. So know that you're not being easy on yourself by focusing, you're not taking it too slow. You're not being lazy. You're doing the strategy, high quality, focused and the right way for you. So that's definitely an important takeaway from this session, focus, focus, focus. Some other things I just want to like put out in the universe that you are wonderful at. You have this ability to know when things scare the shit out of us. Definitely. Yes. And you have learned to turn it into your superpower. So very specifically, I'm thinking of times where you would just say a lot to me. Like, I'm really scared to say this, or I'm feeling like the only one who is experiencing this right now. That vulnerability consistently surprised you because you kept seeing the folks in our group be like, Oh, thank you for saying something, Stephanie. And she was such a leader in that way to help other people to get honest conversations. You made everyone else's journey move faster because of that. And you're doing it again right now by being in this podcast. So that's something else that I want to encourage people to learn from you is like it's scary to be vulnerable. Find the safe space to do it because not all places are safe. But when you feel like you're in a place where you can be honest, what do you think did it pay off to like, share what was the going on with you, as you were learning. Stephanie 30:03 Yes. And there were so many times when I was writing up a little, you know, a post in the Facebook group, that I wasn't even going to send it, you know, send or whatever you hit in Facebook, I, um, I wrote it all out and like, I can't put this on there. You know, I don't want to put this out there about myself. My biggest thing is I didn't want to discourage anybody. I was afraid by putting out there that I was feeling scared about something or vulnerable or discouraged about something, I was scared that my feelings would make other people feel the same way. And I'm so glad that I posted because it just the thread exploded. And I had so many other women say, oh, no, I'm exactly where you are. And that moment of community was so profound, I guess. And I think it helped all of us to see we're all in the same boat together. And none of us were alone. And it helped Melissa Landry 31:06 for me to watching that because that there are limitations I have as coach, right. Like, I'd like to think I'm pretty good and skilled at what I do. But you guys are going through this. And it means something different when someone who's going through it can talk about it, and you have those connections, which is why my community exists alongside the coaching because I want you to have every tool available to you. As you're learning this. Those groups are only as good as the members though I can't invite conversation. And so I was so appreciative for how you led the way on that and what that meant to all of our other members. It's very true that we worry about being a downer. Like, guys, guess what we're feeling this way. We're not more sad by talking about the sadness. In fact, it helps us to make meaning and move on from it. So millions of lessons get learned when we put stuff out there in safe spaces. And I was glad you were part of that. That was really amazing. Yeah, I am sure there's like a million other takeaways listeners have. So I'm gonna invite you right now I've just summarized with Stephanie, breaking it down small, being vulnerable, and being okay with the crappy parts of this process they haven't support through that is totally normal. And okay, you're not negative. It's part of it. If you have any other takeaways you love from this episode, I want you to think of them right now. And I want you to get to work on them in your way with or without a coach. Just learn from Stephanie just get started. It pays off. Is there anything we missed? Any other thoughts or things you wanted to share today before we close this Convo? Stephanie? Stephanie 32:41 Just that I think, you know, changing your mind about this won't work or can't work to maybe it will or maybe I can do this. And that was another thing you taught me was can and, and will and want, as opposed to? I don't want or I can't Yeah. You know, maybe maybe this will work and try thinking of things a little differently. And you might surprise yourself at how how much better your life can be. Melissa Landry 33:14 Yeah, takes a little faith takes a little bit of a push to do that. But yeah, it does. It's the same spirit that opened you up to try that, like what if emotional eating is okay. And that's that's the other thing that I think is important for listeners to know when you're scrolling Instagram. And sometimes people are sharing their wins or your educators are kind of teaching you the behaviors that that intuitive eating links with. There's all this mindset that is like implicit or hidden behind the scenes. That's definitely now can access and she can talk about but those are the real nuggets of wisdom you want because that propels you going forward. So well said. Well, are you are you are you working today? Are we doing here today? Or is this? No, Unknown Speaker 34:00 Monday, so my day off? So just chilling out my kitchen talking to you. Melissa Landry 34:03 I just really am so grateful that you spend time on your day off with me it means so much and you know this is recorded and it's gonna go out to folks and you made such an impact with your story. So just big big. Thank you. Stephanie has nice spending time with you today. Stephanie 34:20 Thank you, you too Melissa. Melissa Landry 34:24 Wasn't it refreshing to hear a real person's story, like a regular person that has gone through this? What they did to find food freedom, Stephanie gave a lot of practical takeaways for you this episode, one of them being the importance of support. If listening to her story, you realized that not only would benefit from but you really want support a point in the right direction and opportunity to go back and forth and make meaning of your experience in the past and in the present. When it comes to food so that you could have a better future with it, I want to invite you to apply to my three month one to one coaching. You can apply at my website, Melissa Landry nutrition.com. Or you could message me at no more guilt on Instagram. And we can talk about what you're working on, what's not working, what you want to start working and how I would approach it with you every step of the way. So you like Stephanie could say, Yeah, I emotionally eat in a way that makes me feel better, not worse. You can say that my fear around food doesn't take a hold of my life anymore. You can say that I trust myself for the very first time. I think that's possible for you the same way it's been possible with hundreds of clients I've worked with since I created this program. So if this sounds good, and you're interested, reach out. Otherwise, I'll see you next week on the podcast. Until next time, be good to your good body. Transcribed by https://otter.ai